I love the balance and nuance pf your article which is necessary, of course, because it is almost impossible to make any conclusive argument on intention. However, one thing, IMO, that is conclusive is that "centralisation" is the root problem. Our society has evolved into an incredibly lazy one that relies way too much on credentialism and authority. This laziness is not just the benefit club, lounging about on sofas at the expense of productive members of society, it is also the doctors you talk about. Yes, NICE is absolutely at fault if it is a set of legal guidelines that doctors should follow but is there not a mechanism for doctors to challenge NICE, no matter how long it takes? If not, that is exactly the problem, as always. Too much power concentrated in the hands of few doesn't need to be corrupted to yield sub-optimal outcomes. Decentralisation is the solution for public health and all the other failures of the current government system.
As Michael Yeadon has stated --- the government policy was to give a respiratory inhibiting drug to people with a severe respiratory disease.
Because why? .... because why....
Because they wanted to inhibit respiration. Which resulted in the deaths of many thousands of people.
This is murder. Cold blooded mass murder.
Then CNNBBC cited these numbers on a daily basis --- referring to them as 'Covid deaths'.... photos of dying people in ICUs... body bags ...
A constant drum beat of fear fear FEAR...
Then ... the magic bullet... Operation Warp Speed.... fret not my precious .... we will ensure that you do not die gasping for breath because of the dreaded Wuhan virus.... you will not drop dead on the street like that guy in China.
We have the best scientists in the world working on a ... vaccine!
And like magic... the vaccine arrived.... and the mob rejoiced... the mob celebrated with free donuts and lottery tickets.... as they queued in parking lots eager for salvation ...
And now they have ruined immune systems... and are dying off.
Its always Guidance not Tramlines -many of us routinely do not adhere to NICE when not appropriate. A good example (although not in my view good practice ) is that 90 % of antidepressants are prescribed contrary to NICE guidance.
This is rearing is head a lot currently and I think there are major crossed wires. So to clarify I am a GP worked through the "pandemic" across 3 practices in the North West. At no point did I ever subscribe to the death rate, lockdown and am unjibbed.
Just to be clear I think there have been many,many catastrophic problems with how COVID was handled -failure to admit, inappropriate discharges , lack of access to service (or fear from patients taking up service), loneliness, failure to protect elderly by discharging positive cases into homes or with vulnerable spouses etc all contributed to deaths and are unacceptable -I do not wish in any way to defend these actions.
What I do not believe happened was lots of people were given midazolam early and inappropriately - I have many contacts around the country as you might imagine and have seen nothing to suggest this. What didhappen was that in March 2020 a concerted effort was made to look at patients in whom they had either already expressed wish never to be admitted to hospital or it was manifestly clear admission was not appropriate and their end of life care plans were updated. Alongside this just in case (JIC) drugs would be issued to be available -this includes midazolam and morphine. This is good practice and efficient GP practices would have mostly already have this covered but many would have found patients in whom this had not been done and caught up. To be clear this is what should happen to avoid suffering from delays contacting out of hours doctors and pharmacies to try and access drugs that should be available already.
Hence the spike in prescribing -I saw no evidence of increased usage. Can I say it never happened - no , do I think the issue re midazolam is however is largely explained by the above- absolutely yes.
Absolutely, decentralization. Until 3 years ago, I don’t believe governments interfered in the practice of medicine much, if at all, or if they did I just wasn’t aware. But same issue of “rules” in the US for hospital “treatments” with Resemdivir (sp?) & vents that killed. And now I hear LGB-FJB would like to introduce laws to curtail or prohibit off-label use of medications. Iver & Hydroxy, anyone? And/or regulating the sale of simple vitamins. It’s all so sinister & unhinged.
I was involved in a proposal for a trial in the use of vitamin D in spring 2020. It was declined. I thought at the time that there had simply been better proposals for such a trial, then because increasingly confused when no such trial started. This was odd because we knew that it might have some positive effect, and also knew that the risk of side effects would be near zero.
We now know that giving vitamin D supplements at that time would have saved lives.
Yes, such simple & cheap (or free) treatments: C, D, Zinc, Quercetin, exercise, sunshine, fresh AIR. What did they do instead? Lockdowns (leading to massive time indoors, out of the sun to eat & drink too much), isolation which led to depression for many & suicide for some, closing gyms, parks, playgrounds so that people could not exercise & get fresh air & sun, banning Iver & Hydroxy, telling people who showed up at hospitals to go home & not come back until they couldn’t breathe, hospital protocols from governments meant to kill, putting frail & elderly WuFlu patients back into care homes to infect others while isolating them from loved ones…. I could go on & on. If people can’t see how sinister it all is, I can’t help them.
O, & MASKS of course, to prohibit free breathing so that we could inhale spent CO2, bacteria & have sweat, snot & other secretions plastered to our faces while our glasses fogged. And quackcine mandates & passes.
“It is important to note that these guidelines came from NICE – this isn’t a simple guidance for medics, but a set of rules that they have to follow unless they have good reason to do otherwise.”
I was just following the rules has been the defence of war criminals, mass murderers and ordinary men doing the wrong thing throughout the ages. Your confidence in your fellow humans is admirable but probably misplaced. Cold hard statistics don’t lie however much people try to bend them to their narrative and the peak of non-Covid deaths in the spring of 2020 is a reminder that even in the medical profession, bad things can be done by good people following bad rules.
Well done. I believe your middle ground explanation is correct because acknowledged drug-induced euthanasia is routinely used to end lives ever day. This edict from above in 2020 appeared to accelerate that process.
I have recently been made aware of the Memorial Hospital incident in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
I cannot actually believe I didn't know about this incident, nor that it has never been cited during the covid crisis / midazolam discussions, because there are SO many parallels .
Basically, panic and fear led to doctors and nurses deciding to euthenize a load of patients with midazolam and opiates.
A parish district attorney wanted to prosecute but the state AG and machinery of the US judicial system stepped in to stop it.
In the midst of this Zero Sum Game - these Hunger Games - invented by our rulers for our enrichment and edification - death is life and life death, men women and women men. Up is down and “you will have nothing and you will be happy”.
"Doctors aren’t evil people (with a few obvious exceptions) and wouldn’t go along with ‘orders from above’ to commit such atrocities."
This is, historically, a provably false statement, but then we also have this recent evidence. Apologies for how distressing this all is, but if evil needs to be stopped it first has to be noticed.
I do wonder how many medics would do harm if they thought they could get away with it. From studies in the military it is clear that there are a significant minority who harbour psychopathic tendencies.
However, it is clear that it is easy to get the majority to do things that they'd realise were evil if only they had a clear head.
I love the balance and nuance pf your article which is necessary, of course, because it is almost impossible to make any conclusive argument on intention. However, one thing, IMO, that is conclusive is that "centralisation" is the root problem. Our society has evolved into an incredibly lazy one that relies way too much on credentialism and authority. This laziness is not just the benefit club, lounging about on sofas at the expense of productive members of society, it is also the doctors you talk about. Yes, NICE is absolutely at fault if it is a set of legal guidelines that doctors should follow but is there not a mechanism for doctors to challenge NICE, no matter how long it takes? If not, that is exactly the problem, as always. Too much power concentrated in the hands of few doesn't need to be corrupted to yield sub-optimal outcomes. Decentralisation is the solution for public health and all the other failures of the current government system.
I think the fear (and unknowns) in April 2020 led to medics and other healthcare workers applying rules without too many questions.
After this point I believe that questions were asked of the policies.
The unknown is care-homes, which don't have the same rigorous medical structures as found in hospitals.
I don't know about the situation in the USA, where the profit motive also appears.
Surely there can be no ambiguity here.
As Michael Yeadon has stated --- the government policy was to give a respiratory inhibiting drug to people with a severe respiratory disease.
Because why? .... because why....
Because they wanted to inhibit respiration. Which resulted in the deaths of many thousands of people.
This is murder. Cold blooded mass murder.
Then CNNBBC cited these numbers on a daily basis --- referring to them as 'Covid deaths'.... photos of dying people in ICUs... body bags ...
A constant drum beat of fear fear FEAR...
Then ... the magic bullet... Operation Warp Speed.... fret not my precious .... we will ensure that you do not die gasping for breath because of the dreaded Wuhan virus.... you will not drop dead on the street like that guy in China.
We have the best scientists in the world working on a ... vaccine!
And like magic... the vaccine arrived.... and the mob rejoiced... the mob celebrated with free donuts and lottery tickets.... as they queued in parking lots eager for salvation ...
And now they have ruined immune systems... and are dying off.
This is not by chance. There is malicious intent.
Its always Guidance not Tramlines -many of us routinely do not adhere to NICE when not appropriate. A good example (although not in my view good practice ) is that 90 % of antidepressants are prescribed contrary to NICE guidance.
This is rearing is head a lot currently and I think there are major crossed wires. So to clarify I am a GP worked through the "pandemic" across 3 practices in the North West. At no point did I ever subscribe to the death rate, lockdown and am unjibbed.
Just to be clear I think there have been many,many catastrophic problems with how COVID was handled -failure to admit, inappropriate discharges , lack of access to service (or fear from patients taking up service), loneliness, failure to protect elderly by discharging positive cases into homes or with vulnerable spouses etc all contributed to deaths and are unacceptable -I do not wish in any way to defend these actions.
What I do not believe happened was lots of people were given midazolam early and inappropriately - I have many contacts around the country as you might imagine and have seen nothing to suggest this. What didhappen was that in March 2020 a concerted effort was made to look at patients in whom they had either already expressed wish never to be admitted to hospital or it was manifestly clear admission was not appropriate and their end of life care plans were updated. Alongside this just in case (JIC) drugs would be issued to be available -this includes midazolam and morphine. This is good practice and efficient GP practices would have mostly already have this covered but many would have found patients in whom this had not been done and caught up. To be clear this is what should happen to avoid suffering from delays contacting out of hours doctors and pharmacies to try and access drugs that should be available already.
Hence the spike in prescribing -I saw no evidence of increased usage. Can I say it never happened - no , do I think the issue re midazolam is however is largely explained by the above- absolutely yes.
Your perspective is needed, Doctor.
Absolutely, decentralization. Until 3 years ago, I don’t believe governments interfered in the practice of medicine much, if at all, or if they did I just wasn’t aware. But same issue of “rules” in the US for hospital “treatments” with Resemdivir (sp?) & vents that killed. And now I hear LGB-FJB would like to introduce laws to curtail or prohibit off-label use of medications. Iver & Hydroxy, anyone? And/or regulating the sale of simple vitamins. It’s all so sinister & unhinged.
I was involved in a proposal for a trial in the use of vitamin D in spring 2020. It was declined. I thought at the time that there had simply been better proposals for such a trial, then because increasingly confused when no such trial started. This was odd because we knew that it might have some positive effect, and also knew that the risk of side effects would be near zero.
We now know that giving vitamin D supplements at that time would have saved lives.
Yes, such simple & cheap (or free) treatments: C, D, Zinc, Quercetin, exercise, sunshine, fresh AIR. What did they do instead? Lockdowns (leading to massive time indoors, out of the sun to eat & drink too much), isolation which led to depression for many & suicide for some, closing gyms, parks, playgrounds so that people could not exercise & get fresh air & sun, banning Iver & Hydroxy, telling people who showed up at hospitals to go home & not come back until they couldn’t breathe, hospital protocols from governments meant to kill, putting frail & elderly WuFlu patients back into care homes to infect others while isolating them from loved ones…. I could go on & on. If people can’t see how sinister it all is, I can’t help them.
O, & MASKS of course, to prohibit free breathing so that we could inhale spent CO2, bacteria & have sweat, snot & other secretions plastered to our faces while our glasses fogged. And quackcine mandates & passes.
“It is important to note that these guidelines came from NICE – this isn’t a simple guidance for medics, but a set of rules that they have to follow unless they have good reason to do otherwise.”
I was just following the rules has been the defence of war criminals, mass murderers and ordinary men doing the wrong thing throughout the ages. Your confidence in your fellow humans is admirable but probably misplaced. Cold hard statistics don’t lie however much people try to bend them to their narrative and the peak of non-Covid deaths in the spring of 2020 is a reminder that even in the medical profession, bad things can be done by good people following bad rules.
Well done. I believe your middle ground explanation is correct because acknowledged drug-induced euthanasia is routinely used to end lives ever day. This edict from above in 2020 appeared to accelerate that process.
aka mass murder
Hi,
I have recently been made aware of the Memorial Hospital incident in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
I cannot actually believe I didn't know about this incident, nor that it has never been cited during the covid crisis / midazolam discussions, because there are SO many parallels .
Basically, panic and fear led to doctors and nurses deciding to euthenize a load of patients with midazolam and opiates.
A parish district attorney wanted to prosecute but the state AG and machinery of the US judicial system stepped in to stop it.
All the same elements are there. Uncanny.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Medical_Center_and_Hurricane_Katrina
Finally got round to finalising an article about this. I quote Bartram's piece where appropriate.
https://hartuk.substack.com/p/ethical-boundaries
In the midst of this Zero Sum Game - these Hunger Games - invented by our rulers for our enrichment and edification - death is life and life death, men women and women men. Up is down and “you will have nothing and you will be happy”.
"Doctors aren’t evil people (with a few obvious exceptions) and wouldn’t go along with ‘orders from above’ to commit such atrocities."
This is, historically, a provably false statement, but then we also have this recent evidence. Apologies for how distressing this all is, but if evil needs to be stopped it first has to be noticed.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/11/watch-perspectives-on-the-pandemic-9/
https://rumble.com/v12rphn-a-good-death-midazolam-morphine-haloperidol-hyoscine-documentary.html
I do wonder how many medics would do harm if they thought they could get away with it. From studies in the military it is clear that there are a significant minority who harbour psychopathic tendencies.
However, it is clear that it is easy to get the majority to do things that they'd realise were evil if only they had a clear head.