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Thank you so much for explaining that. I read the article through several times earlier today and then gave up trying to work out what it meant. It was written in such a complicated way.

I am sure Bill and Tony will find a vax for hybrid immune damping !

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It’s convoluted on purpose, I expect it’s the only way they could get it published. I’m not sure this is ever going to get out into mainstream media, very powerful entities are at force here. Dare I say it, it needs a wealthy maverick like Musk, who doesn’t give a rats a### to blow the whistle on all this. I fear for his safety now…People I love have been double jabbed and one boosted ( was pregnant at the time!) - they are young and old and were bullied by colleagues, medical staff, society and relentless propaganda. Deep down I know they are afraid, I’m very afraid for them. I really can’t frighten them even more, unless someone comes up with a solution. We need to live the best lives we can. How can we help these people? Is there any help?

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"a wealthy maverick like Musk"

- This guy is a transhumanist and is building the IoT/IoB with Starlink, whilst simultaneously running three scam companies that all depend on government subsidies. Please don't worry about Elon, he's "one of them".

When he said "twitter has a bot problem" I laughed out loud. On one occassion when Tesla was doing badly, he posted on twitter "send me memes". My reply to him reminded him he was breaking the law by posting without board approval as per the SEC and also that he had share holders to worry about.

I was instantly besieged by hundreds (not joking) of white-knight bot accounts. I ignored them all because I knew what was happening and half an hour later, none of those accounts existed anymore. They were all bots.

Elon is a fraud to make you love your servitude. He is a classic bait and switch psyop. Let's say he gets "his" way and allows free speech on twitter. Well good news, you'll just expose yourself as a disgusting espouser of hate speech/anti government terrorism and then the FBI will "party van" you. If only you had allowed an unpaid intern to just ban you for life, everything would have been so much easier for you. Now enjoy breaking big rocks into small rocks in a gulag, I mean re-education, I mean antiracism camp in Alaska for the next twenty years.

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Exactly, Musk is one of the most effective conmen in existence.

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this fellow created a company in order to produce a high-dose K1-K2 product. Were I worried about damage on the way due to the inoculation, I'd beef-up on the K's along with many other nutrients that can help mitigate its various effects. https://www.k-vitamins.com/index.php?page=research-view-all&id=17

here's hundreds of papers on Fucoidan at PubMed - some right up the alley

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=fucoidan&sort=date&size=200

Taurine can probably help

The role of taurine derivatives in the putative therapy of COVID-19-induced inflammation

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7889472/

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Thank you hillcountry, very much appreciated :)

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A few other thoughts on that.

Liposomal Glutathione (Quicksilver sells a good one)

If you have access to Red/Infrared Photobiomodulation panels or full beds, there are papers on PubMed identifying benefits.

any of the FXR agonists like ivermectin but including chicory, saffron and others come to the liver's rescue and per the papers of Anthony Mawson on PubMed, it's liver-damage from multiple-vaccinations causing retinoid spillage that's exacerbating if not causing many symptoms

I'm hoping Hyperbaric Oxygen sessions can speed up repair from the organ damage due to a natural infection.

Also - the anti-clotting action of Nattokinase and Lubrokinase are being discussed quite a bit lately due to all of the thrombosis complications.

Last but not least is N-Acetyl-Cysteine.

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"Last but not least is N-Acetyl-Cysteine."

Which the FDA is desperate to ban btw....

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Thank you Andreas, I hope all is well. I will check this out.

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there is a protocol on FLCCC website now, i- recover (altho all injuries manifest differently it says). I have come across NAC and flush niacin / melatonin protocols too, on telegram I believe

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And, - if that were not bad enough :-

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X

Meddle not with that ye do not know.

Both innate and adaptive immunity are poorly understood.

Even worse, vaccinologists, or should I say - genetic engineers, misunderstand the bits we apparently know.

Their arrogance is surpassed only by their incompetence.

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Part of the problem is that scientists are so very specialised now:

The genetic engineers didn't know the details of the immune system or viral evolution

The evolutionary biologists didn't know the details of genetic engineering or the immune response

The immunologists didn't know enough about viral evolution or genetic engineering.

What we need are more polymaths, but they're disadvantaged by our education system.

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Lots of boosted people I know are getting very severe covid and flu....

VAIDS?

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In NZ?

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Yep.

Also I was told by a nurse that in Queenstown 20% of the staff at the hospital have departed .. she didn't say specifically but I got the impression this was due to the continuing booster mandates for staff and the epic numbers of vax injured they are seeing come through the doors.

If the entire staff was to walk - the mandates would immediately end.... but nope ... most pretend the injuries are ... long covid?... and continue to jam boosters into their arms.

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That’s interesting Fast Eddy - I’m in NZ too. I usually avoid all MSM because it’s state funded propaganda now . But I couldn’t help but catch the persuasive adverts over the weekend for boosters for 16/17 year olds - it makes my blood boil. There is NOTHING, nada, zilch of a hint that anything is amiss.On one blog I read a person said his nurse partner had received two written warnings because she refused to say/ write adverse affects ( some bad so she has taken copies of papers) we’re anything but ‘coincidental’. I wonder how many people ARE going to their PMs, the media and getting stonewalled. Imagine the power to keep this under wraps. Apparently at a school opening yesterday I father held up a sign saying the PM had killed his son - nothing in the media. And she creeps in secretly earlier through the back door for selfies with teenagers. We do hear that she is receiving death threats and how bad life is for her though. After how the country dealt with the parliamentary protest I’m not sure what it is going to take- all MPs, media, police were/ are complicit. I’m truely bewildered and dismayed- but then 99% people are still wearing masks like the walking dead so…

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Thanks for your insight. Here in Canada we’re probably a little behind (but not too far behind) the tyrannical regime we hear of from NZ. The sheeple here seem quite compliant but my read is that they’re starting to realize they’ve been duped. I feel the dam is starting to spring a few leaks. I can see all those that have played some part of this genocide will be switching teams soon while the truth starts to leak out (to the sheeple that are on MSM). Even the slow kids are gonna understand soon….. Hell mend them!

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But NZ courts are way better than in North Cuba, sorry, Canada.

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Just to clarify, following the paragraph “The paper is fairly long and complex, but to summarise”...

...the 2 bullet points are meant to be identical save for the word “no”? (Just checking there isn’t a cut and paste error)

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I’m thinking definitely yes, having now read the abstract twice. That’s the point you’re making: that whereas prior infection might explain imprinting, if it’s the same without prior infection it must be the vaccine.

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Yes. I followed the same path, and reached the same conclusion.

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Makes sense. I read and compared those two sentences a few times and remained confused. It’s already tough to keep up with this topic - I thought it was “just me”! Thanks for restoring my faith in myself! (Although I may still be a little crazy. As they say “just ‘cos I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean people don’t hate me…” ;-)

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Let me dig up the source manana and post again but Karl Denninger highlighted this a year ago.

A paper was published which showed that due to the spike-specific immune response, 6/10 vaccinees can never create natural immunity against the nucleocapsid (N protein) of the virus so are doomed to get sick with Covid and other beta-coronaviruses forever.

I am seeing this in my own life, people are getting severe "colds" that render them bedridden for days at a time, every few weeks.

I don't recall ever being bed-ridden by a cold, do you? I also don't recall being sick with a cold and then sick with another cold two weeks later. But it's happening.

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I haven't heard of people being bedridden by a cold either. Reminds me of that terrible flu going around australia and the uk, and probably other places.

My neighbor just told me where he works, vaccinated people are out of work with another round of colds. This would explain it.

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It's absolutely happening and it's shocking. We can disagree on the mechanics of why it is happening, but it is absolutely happening.

For the record, I don't think ADE is happening and if that was going to happen we would have seen it by now. Thank God. That would have been apocalyptic.

Pathogenic priming (OAS) is more likely, and that may be what we are seeing, but we can also argue that there is a dysregulation of the immune system that goes far beyond that (we see that in all the herpes zoster effects and aggressive cancers). I haven't heard of a "terrible flu" going round but that would more confirm the latter, i.e. dysregulation of the immune system/auto-immune disease.

This doesn't even cover the neurological problems that Moderna admitted in their own paper in 2017:

...excerpt from an interview with Dr. Chris Shaw, Ph.D, Specialist in Neuroplasticity and Neuropathology. Shaw described this very condition that could emerge as a reaction to agents in the mRNA vaccine that find their way into the brain. Here’s what he said:

“The mRNA lipid-coated PEG-construct– by Moderna’s own study–does not stay localized but spreads throughout the body including the brain. Found in animal studies in bone marrow, brain, lymph nodes, heart, kidneys liver, lungs etc Doctors are saying that the vaccine does NOT cross the blood-brain barrier, but that is NOT true. …If it reaches the brain there will be an auto immune response that will cause inflammation What characterises virtually all neuro-degenerative diseases is this misfolded protein that is characteristic to Lou Gerrigs disease, to Alzheimer’s, to Parkinsons to Huntington’s etc.

They are different proteins, but they tend to form these sheets of misfolded proteins called Beta Sheets. Now you are asking cells in various parts of the body–including the brain– to make a lot of these proteins and release them to the outside, and, are we sure that’s what’ it’s all doing? Are you getting clusters of misfolded proteins inside neurons? That would be a bad thing to do.

So, you’d like to know where it is, how much of it there is, and which groups of neuronal groups its targeted. .and those are the kinds of questions you like the companies to have solved long before they got authorization and discovered some years later that they have a problem.”

“This is a vast experiment that should have been done in the lab on animals and now it is being done on people ..The potential is that you are going to harm a lot of people while you do this experiment.”

Now throw in rapid-onset CJD and the thrombotic problems and you have a perfect storm...

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/06/10/covid-vaccines-cause-a-new-fast-acting-form-of-deadly-mad-cow-neurological-condition-cjd-says-leading-virologist/

For the record, I am speaking to some medics/scientists at the moment. They all say the same thing: if the vaxxes are causing dysregulation of the immune system/auto-immune diseases then the monkey/small pox vaccines are going to cause necrosis, which will require amputation of legs and arms and almost certainly death in a lot of cases.

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I suggest that we're now seeing the start of ADE.

You wouldn't expect to see ADE before about 9 months of the vaccine being given, and the risk period can extend for years.

At the moment it looks like we're seeing enhanced infectivity and enhanced symptomatic disease, but not a larger number transferring into the serious symptomatic disease.

We might see increased serious symptomatic disease at some point -- indeed, the increase in hospitalisations in the UK at the moment is somewhat worrying (the wave is only just starting and it takes over a week to get to the hospitalisation stage -- yet we're seeing hospitalisations up about a third from the trough).

I suspect we might see a larger effect in terms of serious symptomatic disease in our Sept/Oct '22 wave with even more problems in the winter 22/23 wave.

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As prophesied by Dolores Cahill. And if that happens, they will reintroduce masks everywhere they can and cry doom on the unvaccinated as the cause, and blame Covid not rna vaccines, and return to division and lies creating further hatred among the sufferers. We are in a lull period. They will go to even more extreme measures to cover up what has happened, should ADE appear. Now is the time to warn anyone who might listen, in this quiet time when they may be a little more receptive, that the vaccines appear not to be vaccines at all.

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They blatantly risked apocalypse though.

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The coming destruction could be vast. I remember the nlp's crossing the blood-brain barrier. Both phizer and moderna outright lied about where this goes in the body.

Thanks for the link to that article. 💕

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"Naw, he didn't die from the fall, he died from 'Smackingintothegroundosis'"

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😅

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Vaccinated and had Covid is a big category with a lot of difference within it. I'd like to know if those who first had Covid, then got the vax, also lose their ability to respond to new variants.

Those who got the vax, then at some stage got Covid, that's potentially different.

They call it dampening because they wouldn't have got it published otherwise, clearly, and that will be why they didn't look at the unvaxxed.

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"When I use a word", Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."

Which appears to be the world we now live in.

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Not sure about the effect on vaccine induced T-cells but we have known since nearly the beginning that vaccine induced memory B cells simply stop adapting after a few months. As if they were frozen in time.

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This paper is adding to the evidence, both in the magnitude and breadth of the effect.

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It is hard to tell if you have correctly parsed the paper in question. Given the complexity of the paper, and that your post was issued only a few hours after publication, it is hard to see how you could have done so. Instead it merely seems that you have mimeographed some tidbits from the authors' own commentary, without delving into the results for yourself.

"The paper is fairly long and complex, but to summarise: They found that in vaccinated individuals that had prior infection, the immune response to Omicron variant was to improve the immune protection to earlier variants, but offered very little protection to Omicron variant."

As opposed to middling performance by the infection-naive+3rd-dosed and stronger performance by the 3rd-dosed+Omicron. It's not clear what you think the significance of the low anti-Omicron performance by the Wuhan+3rd-dosed+Omicron is supposed to be.

"And that in vaccinated individuals that had no prior infection, the immune response to Omicron variant was to improve the immune protection to earlier variants, but offered very little protection to Omicron variant."

Totally incorrect. 3rd-dosed+Omicron (but no Wuhan) outperform all other 3rd-dosed in anti-Omicron response in Fig S6.

The authors do not use "Original Antigenic Sin" because their results are not primarily measuring or testing post-Omicron performance. In so far as post-Omicron performance is measured, no comparison is offered to naive+unvaccinated+Omicron, so no conclusions about the effect of the vaccine are possible. Moreover, most of what the authors present is responses in 3rd-dosed+noOmicron sera, and in the cross-reactivity of same. For example: Infection-naive+3rd-dosed have X cross-reactivity to non-Wuhan strains, what about Wuhan/Alpha/Delta+3rd-dosed? They observe less cross-reactivity in some contexts. This isn't OAS, since OAS makes no comment on (already impossible to explain in the first place) front-loaded antigen cross-reactivity to future variants of an mRNA-coded spike protein, and so they do not *call* it OAS.

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I would hypothesize that the “hybrid immune damping” would become less of an issue over time if we would just stop boosting.

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Then how would people in the FDA get a job a Pfizer?

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I'd very much hope that it would be the case, but we just don't know for sure.

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"No wonder our authorities desperately want us to forget about Covid." Not so - they want us to forget about natural immunity and keep jabbing like there is no tomorrow.

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Does the study contradict the idea that the vaccinated don't produce N antibodies even after infection? This was noted in the UKHSA surveillance report (week 42, I believe) as well as in the Moderna data.

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Hi, Bartram. I would like to ask you something about your academic credentials: Is it really true that that you are an "ex-academic and senior government scientist" as stated in your The Daily Sceptic? If so, I would like to be given proofs not because I doubt you, I want more clarity (I have not found anything related with your profile in internet because your real name is unknown). Thanks.

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Here's the link to Karl Denninger's article (*warning*, lots of profanity!):

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=245912

And this is the study he is talking about:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.04.18.22271936v1.full

Anti-nucleocapsid antibodies following SARS-CoV-2 infection in the blinded phase of the mRNA-1273 Covid-19 vaccine efficacy clinical trial

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Excuse my confusion, surely a positive ANA alone cannot be used can it? And what is the significance here? A percentage of the population have a positive ANA ( apparently cause unknown) and those with Lupus.E. I’m positive myself at 320 titre - ‘inflammatory arthritis’- hydroxychloroquine.

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Sorry, I need to pay more attention- something different!

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