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Timothy Williams's avatar

It is important to note that the mRNA remains active for several weeks at a *minimum*. For all we know, the mRNA remains active for the entire life of every test subject, both because pseudouridine resists degradation and because the mRNA is reverse-transcribed into DNA (Swedish researchers showed that this happens to liver cells in vitro at a minimum).

Therefore we should expect excess mortality among the vaccinated to accelerate over time as spike protein and its sequelae such as cancers and amyloid fibril “clots” accumulate. And this is exactly what the current excess mortality data shows, per Igor Chudov’s recent analysis.

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Bartram's avatar

Quite. There are far too many unknowns with these mRNA vaccines.

I'd also note that the time that the mRNA remains active is just one of the known-unknowns (ie, we know that it is important, just not what the answer is). Whether there are important unknown-unknowns remains unknown (ie, are there things that we should be worried about that we don't even know about yet).

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voza0db's avatar

A bunch of people is actually worried about that... The life insurance companies! Many are already facing bankruptcy due to the excess deaths among 18-64 years group.

""And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic," Davison said during an online news conference last week. "Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic."

"So 40% is just unheard of," he added."

more fun reading here: https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid

And this didn't happened during 2020 when the life-saving-jab wasn't around! Clearly the PCR "pandemic" wasn't that deadly!

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Cindi's avatar

Would that the insurance companies would be the very 1st to go after big Pharma for fraud

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voza0db's avatar

They know they can't win that battle so they will let the smaller companies fail. Then the big ones will absorve the rest of the surviving clients and will probably put a premium for those that were jabbed and will write some small letters that will allow them to avoid paying the claim or just pay a very small amount if the death occurs during 18-64 years. Just capitalism working...

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Cindi's avatar

I thought I’d read somewhere that insurance co’s might try to deny claims because people took the jab “willingly”

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voza0db's avatar

They can only do that if the scoundrels issuing the death certificate declare that the miracle mRNA toxic spew COVIDIUS jab was the cause of death... I don't know many official cases so far... you do?

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Cindi's avatar

Nope, they’re more likely to say someone died of WuFlu (or “climate change”!) than the jab. Or creating a brand new category of death - SADS (sudden adult death syndrome) & then try to normalize that as a real thing.

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baboon's avatar

This is what I was sharing with friends and family (as part of a 15,000 word, meticulously linked "dissertation", full of links to scientific articles) I wrote in early 2021.

"...excerpt from an interview with Dr. Chris Shaw, Ph.D, Specialist in Neuroplasticity and Neuropathology. Shaw described this very condition that could emerge as a reaction to agents in the mRNA vaccine that find their way into the brain. Here’s what he said:

“The mRNA lipid-coated PEG-construct– by Moderna’s own study–does not stay localized but spreads throughout the body including the brain. Found in animal studies in bone marrow, brain, lymph nodes, heart, kidneys liver, lungs etc Doctors are saying that the vaccine does NOT cross the blood-brain barrier, but that is NOT true. …If it reaches the brain there will be an auto immune response that will cause inflammation What characterizes virtually all neuro-degenerative diseases is this misfolded protein that is characteristic to Lou Gerrigs disease, to Alzheimer’s, to Parkinsons to Huntington’s etc.

They are different proteins, but they tend to form these sheets of misfolded proteins called Beta Sheets. Now you are asking cells in various parts of the body–including the brain– to make a lot of these proteins and release them to the outside, and, are we sure that’s what’ it’s all doing? Are you getting clusters of misfolded proteins inside neurons? That would be a bad thing to do.

So, you’d like to know where it is, how much of it there is, and which groups of neuronal groups its targeted. .and those are the kinds of questions you like the companies to have solved long before they got authorization and discovered some years later that they have a problem.”

“This is a vast experiment that should have been done in the lab on animals and now it is being done on people ..The potential is that you are going to harm a lot of people while you do this experiment.”"

This data was all publicly available, together with the knowledge that the "vaccines" didn't stop transmission or infection (point number nine in my essay) and that the absolute risk reduction was less than one percent.

I find Dr. John Campbell's - I don't even know what to call it - evasiveness? The fact he says "I didn't know that" or "I don't remember that" very repulsive quite honestly. I can't think of a better word for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYFYq0xEAjQ

If I, a layman, could do all this research in January and February of 2021, then share it with 4Chan and twitter to disseminate it, then anyone could.

Jimmy Dore did a video where he featured Dr. Campbell. The comments section was full of comments from people saying things like "My mother trusted Dr. Campbell and took all of his advice. RIP Mum".

My main worry was dengue-style Antibody Dependant Enhancement. It alarms me that vaccinated people I know are getting colds every couple of weeks, even in Summer, and are having to spend several days in bed as a result. I mean, who stays in bed for days because of a cold?

I will admit though, when I first read J. Bart Classen's paper regarding actual Prions disease (e.g. CJD), I thought that was going too far.

https://medicalveritas.org/covid-prion-disease-risk-from-pfizer-mrna-vaccine/

I don't think that way anymore.

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baboon's avatar

That's not to mention the neurological problems with mRNA vaxxes, which were known in 2017 from Moderna's own study. The lipid nano particles can cross the blood brain barrier, resulting in at best beta-sheets, and at worst, prions disease.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2634529/

This probably explains the amyloid fibril “clots” you mentioned, that embalmers are finding in bodies and which they have never seen before.

This is the stuff of nightmares.

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Neil Pryke's avatar

Only a couple of hours ago, I was following Sir Christopher Chope testifying to Sir Roger Scruton's committee...

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voza0db's avatar

Sorry about leaving here so much FUN reading!

Here's another one:

"The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients-A Large Population-Based Study"

https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219

"5. Conclusions

Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19."

Well... I guess the miracle mRNA toxic spew jab is good for something after all.

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baboon's avatar

Thank you Bartram.

I'm just curious what you personally make of The Exposé? I read their material but I don't like their hyperbolism, and they are preaching to the choir. Do you find their analysis to be of any use?

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Bartram's avatar

Like the 'curate's egg', they're good in parts.

A bit too often they're too quick to lead with a story that has misunderstood the science. This is understandable and probably unavoidable to a certain extent (particularly given the funding constraints in any publication that goes against the narrative).

It is certainly the case that it is important that they exist.

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baboon's avatar

Thank you very much for that, I appreciate it.

My main concern is that I don't know how they are hoping to reach out to the vaccinated, sharing their information with friend and colleagues is not going to do anything to help I'm afraid.

But yes, their work is certainly valuable.

Anyway, have a good weekend and thank you as always for your continued excellent sober analysis.

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voza0db's avatar

"reach out to the vaccinated" there is no way to reach out the jabbed ones.

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cl's avatar

This was my take too, I always check their sources because they made some errors that raised questions for me and were hyperbolic on some seeming wrong conclusions earlier. But I think they do an important job... for example they showed me the exact Pfizer pages where exosome transmission via skin and breath were confusingly/ ambiguously stated re pregnancy (though exact method of "coming into contact with the product" was not explicitly stated when it was by "close contact" that wasn't from eg husbands/ partners. Of course you wouldn't, if you were Pfzr, because self spreaders are an ethical nightmare supposedly still being hotly debated... but I digress!

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voza0db's avatar

This is a fun read...

"Six-Month Follow-up after a Fourth BNT162b2 Vaccine Dose"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2211283

"In this prospective cohort study, a third dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine led to an improved and sustained immunologic response as compared with two doses, but the additional immunologic advantage of the fourth dose was much smaller and had waned completely by 13 weeks after vaccination. This finding correlated with waning vaccine effectiveness among recipients of a fourth dose, which culminated in no substantial additional effectiveness over a third dose at 15 to 26 weeks after vaccination. These results suggest that the fourth dose, and possibly future boosters, should be timed wisely to coincide with disease waves or to be available seasonally, similar to the influenza vaccine. Whether multivalent booster doses will result in longer durability remains to be seen."

See!!! Just like the future mRNA quadFLU they will start jabbing modern moron slaves with mRNA... So the worries about the time those molecules stay in the organism have no reason to exist since at least once a year they'll get a refill dose of mRNA toxic spew...

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Bartram's avatar

I find it very disturbing that the only 'success metric' for these new 'updated' vaccines appears to be that they deliver more antibodies. This might be the case, but what's actually important is whether they improve outcomes. Current data suggests that they don't, and that's before side-effects start to be considered.

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voza0db's avatar

They have nothing else to show for!

Increase of antibodies in the normal reaction of the Immune System to every foreign substance that enters the Organism...

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voza0db's avatar

"One of the big problems regarding the Covid mRNA vaccines in particular, is that there were only sparse data published on how long the mRNA would remain active in the body and where it would end up".

I don't even classify this as a problem... After all majority of the herds are being jabbed with this mRNA toxic spew with 6/8 months intervals with a clear sign that they will be jabbed every year. And if that mRNA quadFLU jab is deployed the so called problem simply evaporates.

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voza0db's avatar

"In the past few months I’ve read newspaper articles warning of the increased risk of death following gardening, stress at work, solar flares, sleeping in front of the television, hot weather, cold weather, shock of high energy bills, the price of food, laughing too much and sleeping in the wrong position – these recent warnings add to the multitude of stories on the health consequences of our dietary choices, sedentary lifestyle and climate change. If that wasn’t scary enough, we’ve also seen efforts to educate the public about how common sudden deaths are in younger adults and teenagers."

We can consider ourselves LUCKY since the COVIDIUS miracle mRNA toxic spew doesn't kill neither causes any serious side effects!!!

In the meantime the GOOD news is that our brilliant scientists and experts are working hard to provide us with another Miracle of mRNA technology:

"Assessment of a quadrivalent nucleoside-modified mRNA vaccine that protects against group 2 influenza viruses"

source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2206333119

Unfortunately this won't be available for sale this coming WINTER/FLU season...

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Bartram's avatar

Yes. I've tried to get that information but it isn't available.

There's lots of anecdotal evidence, though. I was speaking with staff members at a hospital department that dealt with stroke about a month ago and they (unprompted by me) mentioned how there were so many younger stroke victims coming to them for rehabilitation. Not strong evidence, I know, but it adds a little to the growing pile of worry.

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voza0db's avatar

You can associate strokes with SUN "farts" but never with getting the wonderful COVIDIUS jab... I thought this would be clear by now!

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