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toolate's avatar

" period of significantly increased risk from covid over the weeks following vaccination"

Interesting that this concurs with several observational studies that came out from a few countries. Denmark and Scotland comes to mind but i would need to look. And we have solid biological plausibility for that.

Also, my own clinical observations are in line with what you said: deaths with rather than from are about a 1/3 to 1/2. Very hard to say for sure of course. When someone hits their head and dies but is swabbed anyway and called Covid 19 death that is easy. When someone dies in teh shower of an MI and is swabbed and called Covid 19 death that is a bit harder.

The number of 'classic" Covid 19 pneumonia deaths I have seen in less than 50%.

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"With SARS-CoV-2" false positive deaths must surely dominate after week 10 or so. More important given where the bell curve of deaths is (right over January), "deaths efficacy" shouldn't be expected to be that impressive inside the first four weeks, so the pseudo-vaccine doesn't really have much of a chance to make up for the late start unless you extend the window past week 20. I agree that under a hypothetical where you want to "give out the death jab better," some type of wave-avoidance or "hunker down for 5 weeks advice" is a theoretically good compensation for the slow onset of the (short-lived) infection efficacy.

Regarding the delay-adjustment - Deaths among the Covid-vaccinated could obviously have a shorter delay, especially if an AE / + false positive signal is driving "next day" deaths. Scoring "next day" deaths against a 3 week-old denominator is obviously not going to be very favorable. (And I'm leery of the current "understanding" of the disease course since it has been so seldom revisited after spring 2020.)

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